Talk:Janus Films

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Did the first logo actually debut in 1956?

I have conducted some research on the logo including searching some of its earliest appearances that were seemingly printed in the 70's and 80's. I dispute the first logo's debut year because of the prints I took a look at that dates before the 1990's, the 3rd logo was used and only one has the first logo. The first logo's appearances on films from the late 50's to 1960's are possibly modern reprints since the logo appears before a more recent logo (i.e. one print of The Seventh Seal (1957) has this logo precede the 1999 SF Studios logo, so either reissuing or plastering might be involved), that the films Janus have distributed from this period weren't initially released by them and their lineup extends to films released as early as the 1920's. Camenati (talk) 21:22, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Should I remove the Editor's Note I wrote until things get clarified? AlmightyKingPrawn (talk) 22:19, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
If it's disputed, then perhaps you can. Camenati (talk) 22:21, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
I mean, you are the person disputing it. That's why I asked you. AlmightyKingPrawn (talk) 22:51, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
I just added a question mark to the year and wrote "...although this is disputed" in the Editor's Note. Cassie Grandstaff (talk) 23:01, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
If the opening to a short subjects episode of Film Odyssey, which is on YouTube, is anything to go by, the first logo was first seen as late as the '70s. Unless I'm wrong, it was probably only in the late '90s or so that "A" and "RELEASE" disappeared from the logo. --IlCattivo25 (talk) 00:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
ETA: I'll also review my own copies of videocassettes and early DVDs of Janus Collection films, and try to work out when Janus first released them. I'm still pretty sure, however, that whether the first logo was from 1956 or not, the Janus logo on the Embassy release of The Seventh Seal is a plaster. --IlCattivo25 (talk) 00:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Possible False Information on the Page

Since it's disputed if the 1st logo made its debut in 1956, I'm now curious if the dates for the other logos are real, especially if the 2nd logo on the page also has supposedly been used since 1956. Additionally, I did some calculations, and if they were correct, the 1947 Mosfilm logo just barely beats Janus Films' 1st logo in longevity, which may or may not result in the Editor's Note section of the 1st logo being changed. Jecken (talk) 20:00, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Known Janus logos

These are the logos I've been able to identify, and possible releases they were sourced from. Note that the Janus release years given are all just guesses based on what I could find in Boxoffice Magazine and on Newspapers.com.

  • The 400 Blows - 1967, begins with 1st logo (1986 Key Video VHS)
  • Beauty and the Beast - 1970, begins and ends with 3rd logo (1985 Embassy Home Entertainment VHS)
  • Grand Illusion - 1971, begins and ends with 3rd logo (1983 CBS/Fox Video VHS)
  • Jules and Jim - 1962, ends with 2nd logo (1986 Key Video VHS)
  • Mon Oncle - 1983, begins and ends with 3rd logo (1986 Embassy Home Entertainment VHS)
  • Rashomon - Janus release year unknown (original Janus release 1967), begins and ends with 3rd logo (1986 Embassy Home Entertainment Betamax and VHS)
  • The Red Balloon - Janus release year unknown, begins and ends with 3rd logo (1984 Embassy Home Entertainment VHS)
  • The Running, Jumping and Standing Still Film - 1967, begins with 1st logo (1972 KCET broadcast)
  • Seven Samurai - 1972, begins and ends with 3rd logo (1984 Embassy Home Entertainment VHS)
  • The Seventh Seal - 1973 (original Janus release 1958), begins and ends with 3rd logo (1985 Embassy Home Entertainment VHS)
  • Tunes of Glory - 1986, begins and ends with 3rd logo (Sony Movie Channel broadcast)
  • Witchcraft Through the Ages - 1974, begins and ends with 3rd logo (1991 MPI Home Video VHS)
  • Yojimbo - Janus release year unknown (original Janus release 1967), begins and ends with 3rd logo (1986 Embassy Home Entertainment Betamax and VHS) IlCattivo25 (talk) 06:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
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