Forum:Implementation of Draft system
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With the surge of socks by users like Chuck, PBSArchive and Noah, and also to combat the huge number of stubs/empty pages created on this wiki, I think we should implement a Draft system similar to Wikipedia, or perhaps a system similar to the Writer system in WF. That means, newly-registered users would not be able to create pages in the main namespace until they reach a certain edit count, but they could do so in the draft namespace which could act as some sort of a "community sandbox". This is what User:Hb1290 said in another thread: Also I wouldn't be opposed to adding a draft space. It would be a useful place for new editors to figure things out and a good place to put things that aren't mainspace quality but aren't vandalism, trolling or crappy enough to warrant deleting them altogether. It would be an extra step of quality control that we probably need since we're getting more encyclopedic and moving beyond "Scaaaaaary logoz" and "cheesy factors". As for how it would work, we should at least create some guidelines, like: |
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Just wanted to note that I already created the Draft namespace at the time that previous thread was active. I didn’t fully implement a system then because I thought some more discussion around guidelines was needed. Also wanted to add that draft space would be useful for even experienced editors, particularly if you’re gradually building an article but you don’t think it’s ready for mainspace yet |
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At least we still can create pages. |
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I am in strong support of this, especially given the unbalanced treatment towards users who create stub pages and most importantly, so that AlmightyKingPrawn can actually rest up after all those days of madness. It's about time you address this problem to the wiki. |
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I know I'm a bit late because I don't wanna spam, but I legit agree with this. These users are as bit as annoying as a bad show, and we need to do something about this. Before from the User Reports, I said this (a legit quote)ː Then update the wiki. Of course Chuck is gonna come back to the wiki the 16th time this year. Because no one does anything about it. We need either an update, or an alternate. Nothing else will help. And now someone is going straightforward with this plan. I 99% agree with this, and 1% agree with this. One question though. Does this affect us good users? |
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Since you all are autoconfirmed you can still edit and create pages in the mainspace. This will affect newly registered users meaning they wouldn't be able to create or edit in the mainspace but they could do so in the draft space (which shouldn't be visible to readers). Either we could do the Wikipedia way (they can create/edit on mainspace when they reach a certain edit count) or the old WikiFoundry way (an admin would have to manually promote the user to confirmed status). |
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I prefer the Wikipedia way. The edit count should be 50. After 50 edits the normal user on the wiki should already know how to create a page. |
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Started to put together a policy page for drafts here. We still need to finalize the edit count requirement for creating new articles in mainspace and how old drafts should be before they are eligible for deletion. I'll make the two templates later. |
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Started to put together a policy page for drafts here. We still need to finalize the edit count requirement for creating new articles in mainspace and how old drafts should be before they are eligible for deletion. I'll make the two templates later. Can I make some suggestions? It's alright if you don't consider. How about the minimum bytes (or word count) of a page? I think any article should have no less than 400 bytes. Many PBSArchive and Chuck-created pages fall underneath that number as they average around 100-250 bytes. And despite the template consisting of 480 characters in total, which I've seen many articles consisting of just that and nothing else, there are pages whose bytes fall underneath said number that feel complete and eligible for mainspace (e.g. Picture Films). As for the rest, the minimum edit count can be 50 whereas a draft older than 2 weeks can be eligible for deletion. I suggested 50 because that is a number most sockpuppet accounts fail to reach but enough for some users who have enough experience editing on the wiki to start creating their own pages on mainspace. As for the day count, that is enough time for a user to compile everything they have regarding a logo as well as gradually build their article. They may have multiple under construction and it may take weeks to take care of all of them. |
