AVID:Requests for Comment/Removing Nicknames Section and Reconstructing Availability section
First thing I want to mention is the nicknames section. As I can tell, there are people that have different views on what nicknames are notable or not. As seen on the MGM Cartoons page, I made a nickname that I think would fit the 7th logo, but then some troll came in and removed most the more notable nicknames. The nicknames section is just the scare and cheesy factors all over again, even with the limitations now, that is not helping much.
As for the availability section, I would only suggest using the scale if notable enough to the sources its found on and not personal preferences. Walt Disney Pictures and Paramount Pictures are examples of this, as their scales on their logos (2nd logo for Walt Disney and 3rd logo from Paramount) would change constantly. The scale should still be in use but I want some limitations with it.
So yeah, I just wanted this to be a more reliable place even if a wiki, and by removing the nicknames section and remodifying the availability section, there should be less edit wars. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 04:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Support
Support Agree with everything you said. For one, many of the nicknames here are made up (who uses "V-iA-COM" for the first Viacom logo, for example?). Official nicknames could go under "Trivia", and notable nicknames like "S from Hell" or "V of Doom" could fall under "Legacy". And yes, "Availability" needs an overhaul here.
· Talk · Edits 07:40, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Support for the Availability part. We need to rewrite the scale in a way that makes sense and that people can agree on if a logo is "rare" or not. ifyoudarethenpizzait aka Compooper (talk) 11:39, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Abstain
Abstain for the Nicknames part. I'd like to see Trevor's idea get implemented, but for now I have no preference. See my comment about the nickname issue below. ifyoudarethenpizzait aka Compooper (talk) 11:36, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Oppose
Comments
I removed the nicknames in MGM Cartoons. The nickname in question was "Tanner's Return", which, correct me if I'm wrong, seems like a nickname thought of on the spot, with the way you said "I thought would fit the logo". I go by the saying "if I haven't heard of the nickname to describe a logo, it's not well-known or notable." So, please don't call me a "troll" when I am simply doing what I believed was best for the page. This has been an issue on most pages.
To add to my comment I also remove nicknames that don't really make sense and just describe the elements of the logo (take "Gold MGM", "Blue Ribboning", "Leo Cardboard" or "Gene Deitch Lion" on MGM Cartoons, and "Disney Script" or "Smiling Mickey" in The Walt Disney Company for example). The point of nicknames (at least from my view) is to ONLY document the well-known nicknames of the logo, fan or official, and leave the nonsensical ones out.
Please feel free to check out AVID:Tutorial Guide for more information on this, where I wrote pretty much all of the new guidelines among some other people (including Nicknames). Thank you for reading, and please understand my view. ifyoudarethenpizzait aka Compooper (talk) 11:20, 7 November 2022 (UTC)