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Simplification of user groups
I think the abolition of the Board of Directors is a good opportunity to simplify the confusing user group structure to just six groups:


 * Administrators
 * Moderators
 * Confirmed users
 * Bots
 * Users
 * (all)

What are your thoughts on this? --Pingu (talk) 07:04, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

No need for confirmed users. User:Timpbskid23 8:24, 18 September 2022 (UTC), 11:24, 18 September 2022 (EEST, my timezone)

Branding AVID
Now for the next discussion. We have a name, now we need to decide what AVID looks like. Below, I've compiled most of the ideas we have so far. Vote for your favorite! Like before, feel free to add any additional ideas. Also, apologies for some of the images being so enormous. Those ones are Discord media links and I couldn't fix the dimnensions. Talk ·&#32;Edits 23:59, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Support
My logo CalvinWilkerson (talk) 00:10, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

AWM2004 (talk) 10:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC+3)

Oppose

 * 1)  The color scheme looks too...coffee house, to me. Not saying it's a bad design, I'm just saying it could be better. RalstonSullivanMarshall (talk) 18:48, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 2 - Designer: User:SHADOWNINJA
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1023694779739029554/My_AVID_logo_idea_7.png

Support

 * 1)  The design flows really well (reminds me of 21 Laps all the time), and with the four colors intact, gives off a sense of professionalism and playfulness at the same time. Also, as with some other designs, this one is highly customizable too, and could be fit for any special occasions. PM pinter (talk) 00:16, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  As someone who wants to join the world of film and tv production, this logo makes me die inside. It's too reminicent of AVID technologies' logo and I personally cannot stand to use their software. It's so idiosyncratic and it's meant to be that way as it's supposed to keep novices out. It's meant for professionals and professionals only. This is coming from someone who is considered "AVID Certified". No dice. RalstonSullivanMarshall (talk) 00:27, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) I love this one, because it keeps the old feel of the CLG while changing the logo to something modern and upbeat. CLGCreator Returns! (talk) 00:13, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  WCNY is in the background, 1000000/10 Obama hamburger (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Kid named WCNY: ★ Nova (talk) 01:42, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 1) This logo reminds me of the old CLG Wiki logo (back from the WikiFoundry days). IAmThe789Guy (talk) 00:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC) User:IAmThe789Guy (talk)
 * 2)  per the previous two. This retains the CLG vibes. Nordlentille (talk) 00:53, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  I love the idea of ​​keeping the colorful logos mosaic within the design. Jet Dzhet (talk) 03:18, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  I love how this still keeps the logo background, which help reflect the company's purpose. I like this logo overall. Doctorine Dark (talk) 03:22, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 5) I like how the logo matches the background. The design of the logo is perfect, too. I'll definitely like to see this on the website. R.I.P CLG logo (2007-2022)
 * 6)  I personally believe this is the way to go for a CLG rebrand. Not only is the logo really well-designed in my eyes, but the idea of maintaining that classic CLG background keeps a bit of the old while still feeling mostly new. This is honestly a win-win for me and I'd definitely love seeing it on the wiki. DannyTheMuppetMan 12:07, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 7)  This is a mix of brandings both old and new. Many other brands should go down this "hybrid branding" route. HavocMan2000 7:49, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 8)  Very very good logo! I really like this! Sickminecraft45 (talk) 09:29, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 9)  This looks like a fine logo. GPalmer (talk) 16:13, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 10)  This design gets my vote because it keeps the spirit of the old CLG alive. Areyoutyler (talk) 16:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Abstain
abstain

Support

 * 1)  I just really like the color and look of this one. OwenE (talk) 00:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  I just really like the aesthetic and colors of this one. ShanuJackal (talk) 00:08, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3) It's a very good idea: similar to the CLG Wiki logo but still its own thing. And the way we got here was quite the road with so many drafts. Hence why my vote goes with this one. Trevor807 (talk) 00:14, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  This is the one. Obama hamburger (talk) 00:15, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 5)  My favorite so far. a.v.a. (talk) 00:27, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 6)  Very creative design! --DisneyInternationalFan (talk) 00:42, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 7) My choice, it's recognizable, has elements of the old CLG logo but still distinct. Though I agree it'd look better without a gradient   Logohub   (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 8)  I love this logo. It feels fresh & it doesn't stray from our roots. KPyall (talk) 00:59, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 9)  Good design, though it'd be better if it was plain black CalvinWilkerson (talk) 01:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 10)  I'm digging this! After seeing the creative process first-hand in the server, I gotta go with this. Feels somewhat similar to the old logo, but stands out enough where its it's own identity. Good stuff. FryLetterman (talk) 01:12, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 11)  I REALLY LOVE THIS ONE :D HifiSara9000seven (talk) 01:25, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 12)  Mainly because it retains old CLG logo vibes which is an amazing throwback to this wiki's roots. ★ Nova (talk) 01:45, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 13)  I absolutely love the way the colors and the aesthetic of this logo stand out. The design is cool, too. Definitely put this on the website. User: Strxwberriesrweird
 * 14)  Now this is a very eye catching identity! Airvibes (talk) 04:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 15)  Initially I was rooting for Colorband's proposal, but I thought that all the trial and error during its design phase just had to pay off eventually. For that reason, and the fact that this is a cool design, I'm voting for this one. &#60;span style&#61; &#34;color:#f55197&#34;&#62;&#91;&#91;User:Setrki Desu&#124;&#39;&#39;&#39;SETRKI&#39;&#39;&#39;&#93;&#93; *&#60;/span&#62; &#60;span style&#61;&#34;color:#002f87&#34;&#62;&#91;&#91;User_Talk:Setrki Desu&#124;&#39;&#39;talk_pag&#39;&#39;e&#93;&#93; ~&#60;/span&#62;  (talk) 04:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC) (setrki deshita)
 * 16)   Now this totally reminds me of the CLG Wiki. Support for nostalgia! Timpbskid23 4:42, 27 September 2022
 * 17)  this feels like the perfect balance between the old brand and the future of the site. Huge fan of it! MinistrycraftEntertainment (talk) 11:34, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 18)  This is the perfect mix of old and new! Robloxfan999 (talk) 11:40, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 19)  I really love this colorful design! TheRealMarcel2000 (talk) 11:49, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 20)  I can't wait to animate this. IlCattivo25 (talk) 12:36, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 21)  Looks amazing, in hopes this becomes official A7286584 (talk) 15:08, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 22)  WOW! This logo is super colorful, i like it so much. This is a logo with a very attractive and perfect look.--Tobias Benson01 (talk) 17:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 23)  This design is eye-popping I may say, while still true to the logo of the CLG name. Glad this is getting the most supports than the others. BaldiBasicsFan (talk) 23:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 24)  I love this! Esaïe the man (talk) 00:53, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 25)  Gotta love this new look! PokeRapMonster (talk) 05:14, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 26)  THAT REMINDS ME OF AVID'S OLD LOOK,KEEP THE TRIDITIONAL AS WE THINK! MikeZhou49 MikeZhou49 11:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 27)  This looks very creative and I'm loving the gradient design of this logo. TheOddKid2568 (talk 05:05, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 28)  This logo is so awesome! And yet creative, too. Gives me CLG vibes, good work! SillenArchiveNPS (talk) 11:23, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 29)   I like that design and colors tho. User:Cattotlebofficial (talk 15:40, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 30)  Very good. This isn't all "in-your-face" unlike most other logos I've seen, it gets the point across very well. Very, VERY brilliant work. TheAmigo67 (talk) 04:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * , but without the four-colour gradient as the default. One or two colours may be better. --Pingu (talk) 17:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  This gives flashbacks of all the ex - CLG wiki logos, I will like seeing this one for this new rebrand. Not only with the design, but also with the color palette. That's all for this one :-) User:Luli Logo (User talk:Luli Logo) 20:35, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  very huge fan of this logo. it keeps the spirit of the old clg logo, while also keeping it fresh and new. good job, pudsp. tmsl (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  because its creative. LF13-wiki1.png LF13-wiki2.png /  18:32, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1)  I know this logo is probably going to win, but I'm not gonna vote on it because one, I prefer (and also chose) Colorband's proposal and two, I'd hate to vote against a logo that went through a lot of trial and error but managed to come out looking good at the end. Nonetheless, I admire Pudsp's dedication to his design and sincerely wish him well on his graphic design stint. LurkingManiac (talk) 00:45, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  I like this logo, but I don't love it, and I feel like it would be better if the colors in the logo was less of a gradient and more like stripes, like the Central Cake Logo. That's just my opinion though, and who am I to rule against the majority...even though that is a very punk thing to do. RalstonSullivanMarshall (talk) 18:45, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  Meanwhile I do like this Logo the Icon Looks too similar to the Triangle Engineering of Arkansas Logo Poocian (talk) 18:53, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  To be honest the rainbow gradient makes it look kinda generic. Jet Dzhet (talk) 02:59, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Comments
I'd support this logo only if you got rid of the tacky rainbow gradient. --Axel (talk) 00:44, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * That's the beauty of it. :) Pudsp_CLG_SIGNATURE.png 03:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I like this one! =D TemaGub2002 (talk) 15:44, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 6 - Designer: User:NancerCLG
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664949861044584452/1023190462510678106/AVID_and_CBD.png

Support

 * 1)  Retains the classic CLG design while being sleak and disconnected. Unsure why most people don't outwardly like this one. Obama hamburger (talk) 00:13, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  This one has been my favourite for awhile, it feels like a throwback to the old Transamerica/United Artists logo of the 1970s, while also harkening back to the old CLG days. In my honest opinion, this has been the only one that fully worked for me. --RalstonSullivanMarshall (talk) 00:16, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  I support this design because it's modern, it reminds me of the current CLG Wiki logo, and also has a modern touch to the wiki itself. EvelynFriedrich (talk) 00:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  This is really slick and timeless. AlmightyKingPrawn (talk)
 * 5) I support this design because it reminds me of the soon to be former CLG Wiki logo and I feel that as we move ahead into our new era, we should honour our history as a fan forum for closing logos, yet embrace our future as a database dedicated to the preservation of such logos. (Largerchips) 15:35 30 September 2022 (AEST)

Oppose

 * 1)  Honestly, the icons look like they could've come from anywhere, and the first logo only symbolizes the A, which is literally half of "Audiovisual." Overall, these logos feel quite lacking, undistinctive, and fail to recapture the spirit of the old CLG logo. Pudsp_CLG_SIGNATURE.png 02:46, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 7 - Designer: User:NancerCLG
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1024004917544882206/unknown.png

Support

 * 1)  This is what should be used! It's too good not to be used especially if it's from Nancer. BootScreenFanatic - 27 September 2022, 12:49 AM UTC+2
 * 2)  thank Etruongs7 (talk) 15:00, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 8 - Designer: Spotlight (Discord)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1023684949427105913/AVID_Logo_Full.png

Support
This version has the slickest use of the triangle motif out of all the designs which used one. It's a real shame I'm the first one to be voting in favor of this one, it deserves better.

Oppose

 * 1)  This looks very dated, in my opinion. Very much looking like a bad VHS Company from the 80s. No offense. --RalstonSullivanMarshall (talk) 00:47, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  2000's flash game Etruongs7 (talk) 15:50, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The symbol actually reminds me more of the 1980s, oddly enough. Doctorine Dark (talk) 08:37, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 9 - Designer: Plasticity (Discord)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1023677041691865128/unknown.png

Support

 * 1)  This one I also seem to like alot! :) I'm surprised there's not much votes for this one. HifiSara9000seven (talk) 01:27, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  from the looks of it, it looks pretty cool in my opinion. --Tobias Benson01 (talk) 17:25, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  I like this one, I think it looks cool, i like the colours too Iheartparamount (talk) 00:58, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 10 - Designer: Kinnard (Discord)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1023640170509119628/avidly3.png

Support

 * 1)  This is a good logo, reminds me of Sony VAIO. SillenArchiveNPS (talk) 11:26, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 11 - Designer: Colorband (Discord)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1022561262133051422/AVID_Logo_Scribbles.svg_-_Inkscape_2022-09-20_22-21-31.png

Support

 * 1)  This one's been my favorite for a while now. sig.png Talk ·&#32;Edits 00:11, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  Mine as well LurkingManiac (talk) 00:16, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  I prefer this one If I were to be honest, I wouldn't even choose my logo lol. HifiSara9000seven (talk) 00:16, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  This is the perfect logo. LoganStuff (talk) 15:14, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 12 - Designer: Colorband (Discord)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1022561262514753536/AVID_Logo_Scribbles.svg_-_Inkscape_2022-09-20_21-32-36.png

Support

 * 1)  I think the 2000s-style design of this logo looks like a breath of fresh air to me. Also like the colours. Diskkihoax (talk) 21:05, 27 September 2022 (UTC).

Proposal 13 - Designer: User:HifiSara9000seven
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1023481094303121428/unknown.png

Comments
Just to let you guys know, I don't really like this one as much as I did before when I Created it. It may have been a good idea in my head, but I don't know. --HifiSara9000seven (talk) 01:09, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Abstain
One side of me says "ehh", but the other says "this is one of your best friends choose that one". ★ Nova (talk) 02:13, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  Not sure what this is supposed to be. Obama hamburger (talk) 00:16, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  Reminds me of an early-2000s broadband internet provider. Trevor807 (talk) 05:30, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  LMAO I'm opposing my own logo. This was to make a point to that guy that he could make a non eye-bleeding Y2K logo. I might make a GENUINE one but it's probably too late anyways lol PuzonCLG (talk) 20:28, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Looks like an alien's Target anyway LMgamer36 (2020, 2022-present).webp (Visit my talk page!) 07:21, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  Eh, looks like a generic 2000s logo. And of course, we don't want another "ANID". Doctorine Dark (talk) 08:35, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Proposal 16 - Designer: User:Pantsmode
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1022293929846128661/1023167549745147954/unknown.png

Oppose

 * 1)  For a "masterful graphic designer with a prestigious portfolio of 5 public projects on behance", this is very simple and hard to read. Obama hamburger (talk) 00:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  Same reason as Obama hamburger. Plus, it looks more like ᗡИD to me. Trevor807 (talk) 05:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  I agree with them also. HifiSara9000seven (talk) 06:48, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  Looks like a capsule to me.

Oppose

 * 1)  ND LurkingManiac (talk) 05:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Comments

 * 1) This predates ELH's design btw LMgamer36 (2020, 2022-present).webp (Visit my talk page!) 01:42, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) The fact there's no support option on this one.... oh no --HifiSara9000seven (talk) 06:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That's now been fixed sig.png Talk ·&#32;Edits 10:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  Sorry but it's kind of a mess to me. Not very readable. Trevor807 (talk) 17:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  Nope nope nope nope nopeity nope CalvinWilkerson (talk) 02:57, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  instant ramen brand Etruongs7 (talk) 15:47, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  How can I understand this text!? It's just like the first Family Home Entertainment logo, it's unreadable!. User:Luli Logo (User talk:Luli Logo)
 * 5)  The A appears to be melting upward. SuupaaSmartiMax92 (talk) 23:01, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  While it's simple, the font makes it more of a logo from the 90s. LMgamer36 (2020, 2022-present).webp (Visit my talk page!) 01:33, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * That's right, this gives some 90's-like vibes. It can be good in some company contexts, but not in this one. Luli Logo (talk) 20:58, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  Too simple. Doctorine Dark (talk) 02:06, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Makes it look like a Google product either. LMgamer36 (2020, 2022-present).webp (Visit my talk page!) 03:55, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Colors too 1990s internet-like, bad attempts at overlapping the letters, and trying to merge the I with the D makes it read "AVD". Trevor807 (talk) 04:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  Rather bland, and not that reminiscent of the old CLG Wiki logos. Reminds me of the 1989-1998 ITV logo, but not in a tempting way. Doctorine Dark (talk) 08:31, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Feels like it wants to be a Viva Films ripoff as well MinistrycraftEntertainment (talk) 10:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 1)  Kid named Viva Films: CalvinWilkerson (talk) 19:27, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  Bruh? CalvinWilkerson (talk) 23:46, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 2)  Why. Pudsp_CLG_SIGNATURE.png 23:55, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 3)  Not only is the logo bad, but even if it were good it's a bit late anyway. Trevor807 (talk) 04:32, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 4)  Crappy MSPaint Style! RedBall(talk) 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 5)  how old are you Etruongs7 (talk) 15:46, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 6)  Incomprehensible. I don't like the overlapping letters. I almost couldn't see the yellow V SuupaaSmartiMax92 (talk) 22:59, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
 * 7)  Per everyone else. Doctorine Dark (talk) 08:28, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) Nope. Trevor807 (talk) 11:01, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
 * 2) What in the holy name of Marceline the Vampire Queen is this? CalvinWilkerson (talk) 18:34, 1 October 2022 (UTC)