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How can you tell the logo is fake?
@Logofreak98 per the title says, since you were the one who removed this capture from the page. Camenati (talk) 19:41, 1 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I checked the film and there was no logo. Logofreak98 (talk) 20:16, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The original uploader claimed "modern prints of the movie have this logo plastered by the 2009 logo", so that could mean this logo only appeared on original prints of said film. Camenati (talk) 20:20, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I mean there was no logo period. Logofreak98 (talk) 20:25, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * it’s real. i have the footage and everything. Brooklyn Bound Productions (talk) 23:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * We need confirmation as to which (original) print of Cheaper by the Dozen 2 it appears on (if any) before we confirm it as real. AUnnamedDragon 7:37 PM, June 1, 2023 (CET)
 * it appeared at the start of a dvd of the film. the actual footage was found on a now-deleted webdomain named “artrarelogos.com”, in which the entire film was accidentally posted instead of just the logo. Brooklyn Bound Productions (talk) 00:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Which DVD? Which region? Also, "artrarelogos?" Never heard of that before. And as the rules state, fabricated logo finds will be removed and the offending user (the one who created the "find") will be blocked. AUnnamedDragon 8:59 PM, June 1, 2023 (CET)
 * "artrarelogos"
 * Hmmm, name sounds fishy to me. SaganStudios (talk) 01:46, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * which dvd? there was no physical copy of a dvd.
 * which region? the region wasn’t stated. judging by the footage, it was likely american.
 * artrarelogos was really obscure, so of course you haven’t heard of it before. how i found it in the first plave was because i was trying out different web links to see if it worked, and i found artrarelogos out of nowhere.
 * i’ve heard of the rules before. in fact, i’ve actually read all of them. i know what the rules are, and i try my best to not break any of them. Brooklyn Bound Productions (talk) 13:00, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * So, a sketchy DVDrip out of nowhere, sourced from a seemingly non-existent website? Sure trustworthy pal. SaganStudios (talk) 16:29, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Try typing in "artrarelogos.com" and see if there's any proof of that website existing. If not, it's safe to say it's fake. (UPDATE: I Googled "artrarelogos.com: is it real?" and got nothing. And the webdomain "artrarelogos.com" brought up a "Privacy error" page on my Chromebook. So I'll call the "2005" 21 Laps logo fake.) AUnnamedDragon 1:43 PM, June 2, 2023 (CET)
 * I also tried typing it on Internet Archive, given he said it was now deleted. No luck. Yeah, I can't trust him either. T807sig.png · Talk · Edits 23:41, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I forgot people in the logo community are way too trusting. SaganStudios (talk) 00:16, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * so, is it real or fake? Cattotld (talk) 18:18, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Based on how the discussion went and the fact that "artrarelogos.com" doesn't seem to exist, it's safe to say it's fake. --AUnnamedDragon 2:27 PM, June 5, 2023 (CET)


 * I actually thought it was Logohub. Anyway, it's fake. ..at least until it's proven real. We might as well put it in the Logo Urban Legends page for now. ( I myself don't know for sure. And if it's indeed fake, Camenati, I'm disappointed in you. If not, we can both consider ourselves lucky. ) Once it is confirmed as real, we can put it back up. The "Logos From [YEAR]" pages will also be changed once the logo is indeed confirmed to be real. Until then, I'm playin' my skeptical card. AUnnamedDragon 3:58 PM, June 1, 2023 (CET)