User talk:Charlie Fiddlesticks

-- New user message (talk) 17:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Hey
Please don't insert your personal opinions on the logo pages. Putting them on the related talk pages is permitted. Your edits were reverted by Prodigy012. Thank you. / 18:39, 4 November 2021 (UTC)


 * why? I cant do it anywhere else? FreakingGUYman (talk) 16:25, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * sorry it is my first time having an account. i dont know what im doing FreakingGUYman (talk) 16:26, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Also next time please let me off with a warning instead of banning me. i didnt even know what i was doing and you banned me because of it. Also i didnt see the rules page first. Why didnt you warn me first. You probably not gonna read this but please next time give warnings instead of banning me. Thank you and have a good day. FreakingGUYman (talk) 16:59, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * HELP!! I ACIDENTALLY BROKE HANNA BARBERA PAGE FreakingGUYman (talk) 13:56, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
 * well this is awkward :/ FreakingGUYman (talk) 20:46, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Message
What Twitter post from Dara Resnik had that info on Little Bear Ink? Can you link it please? SuperMax124 (talk) 23:28, 16 March 2022 (UTC)


 * When you search on google "This is Dara Resnik's vanity card" it should be the first thing to pop up. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 13:12, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * https://twitter.com/badassmomwriter/status/1425326368363978759 here it is DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 14:05, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

A reminder
I just noticed that you have uploaded fake logos to this wiki. If you wish to keep the images, please add the template. If you don't need the images, let me know, and I will mark the images for deletion. For more information, you may read what the guidelines are about uploading images and what the rules say about fake logos. Thank you. / 14:06, 18 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Im not in trouble right? They are for my user page though. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:11, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * How do i do that? i dont see the button DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:13, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok i did it. Also i need some help with my userpage. How do i make it look like a real logo page? DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:28, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

I'm Retiring On May 2022
Hello, I made [https://closinglogosgroup.miraheze.org/wiki/Forum:Very_Sad_News. A forum] so People Could say Their Farewells. Poocian (talk) 18:08, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

An Alternative to Photoshop
I've seen you say under this forum post that you use Paint 3D to make your logos because you are "too broke" for Photoshop. However, Photopea is a knock-off of Photoshop that is both online and free, but doesn't contain as many features. Try it out. I use it as my main alternative to Photoshop. Jecken (talk) 15:02, 26 September 2022 (UTC)


 * sounds good. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:28, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * can i be unblock now? CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 14:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Warning regarding conduct on Forum:Preparing for a new CLG Wiki
Hello, DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic, I am an administrator for the Closing Logos Group Wiki. I've seen that you have been acting in a way that can be seen as rude, hostile and insulting on the forum thread for the rebrand, especially in response to feedback regarding your logos. This behavior is not acceptable as it can instigate drama and other conflicts with others and create a hostile and unwelcoming environment for other users. I will leave you with a strong warning for now, but continuing this behavior on the thread will result in your account being blocked from editing the wiki. I strongly implore you to review our Site Rules and Policy. Thank you for your understanding. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 15:16, 26 September 2022 (UTC)


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 * DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:57, 26 September 2022 (UTC)


 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * This discussion is starting to get out of control, as it is no longer constructive and has become a back-and-forth argument between two users. Please stop with this, as it is doing nothing but creating drama on the site. Continuing this argument may result in administrative action being taken. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 19:29, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I have reported the block issue to the Steward's Noticeboard. I am realizing how toxic this wiki can be, take NancerCLG fox example. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 16:58, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The reason I am angry here is because I have been falsely banned. Nobody listens to me and the toxic people on the forums (Like NancerCLG and ShadowNinja) keep going after me. I am under stress making these logos and nobody even tells me an idea of what I should be doing. You all should not criticize me for my art and bully me constantly for all. Please let me make the logos in peace and stop stressing me. You all don't even give me an idea of what I should do. Is what I would say but the mods are power hungry and always want to block someone. Shame CLG, I expected better when I joined, but now I see that this group is just a toxic waste yard full of power hungry mods and non accepting users. This could also be rascist. I'm black. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 19:06, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm being racist to you? I'm a non-accepting user? Nancer is a power-hungry mod? I'm a toxic person? I KEEP GOING AFTER YOU?
 * You want to bring me in this mess and blame me, go right ahead! You wanted yourself gone, and that's what we declared you as: gone.
 * If you listened, the criteria of what makes a good AVID logo submission is right there: Cool, but also professional-looking, and a design that won't immediately date itself.
 * Instead, you stormed off, only to come back and throw me under the bus for simply speaking on behalf of the community.
 * Let's get this straight, human being: You want to survive? Don't come on here.
 * And especially don't throw me under the bus, either!
 * Do I make myself clear? SHADOWNINJA (talk) 19:31, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh, and one more thing...  HOW WAS I RACIST?!  SHADOWNINJA (talk) 19:35, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I used you as an example.
 * And you're saying my whole ban could have been avoided because of a logo criteria?
 * Thanks for telling me about the logo criteria, now I am sure my ban was unfair. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 12:41, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * And one more thing, ShadowNinja, I caught you capping on the Steward's Noticeboard. You didn't try to "make me turn over a new leaf". You just left a whole essay about my ban, waving me off at the end. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 12:54, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * AHEM. Do we need to go over this again? I'm just relaying the community's thoughts. They didn't approve of you having that attitude back at others and personally attacking those who criticized your logo ideas. I never even communicated with you to begin with up until now, and you threw me under the bus simply for being honest? Also, how rich of you to try and attack me for notifying the Steward about your behavior. I never even addressed you in the first person! If I was, then things would've been different. And who said I was trying to make you "turn a new leaf?" I never did it! I wanted to, but your rude behavior made me suggest otherwise, because of course you didn't want to change your ways (and still don't)! Your ban was unfair? HibiscusCrown20 gave you a strict warning about your behavior in the "Preparing for a new CLG Wiki" thread, and she said the next time it happens, you'll be blocked. You promptly continued your hostile attitude, hence the one-month block. I'm not saying your ban could have been avoided by following the logo criteria. I'm saying your ban could have been avoided if you listened to them and acted to improve rather than personally attack them. And I was waving you off? I was waving you off? I was being polite the whole time I relayed what was happening in the Stewards' noticeboard. You seem hellbent on trying to break me. You're trying to get me to crack, unaware that everything you're doing is becoming part of your request to be unblocked (by the way, why you're leaving this up when you just said you're leaving is beyond me). You can scream at me all you want about how I'm chasing you, how I'm ruining your life, whatever, but know this... there will come a time when your actions catch up to you in the end. Who will be blamed then? No one but yourself. End of story. SHADOWNINJA (talk) 14:24, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * my question is why are you pressed about being used as an example of toxicity. If you where to be polite, then maybe you would not have been used as an example. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 15:24, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I. DON'T. CARE. SHADOWNINJA (talk) 17:41, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Jeez :/ DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 18:14, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Look DHX, criticism is needed and you shouldn't take it harshly. Yes, your logo is childish (and there's nothing wrong with that, but it just doesn't fit our site's brand image as a logo database), but instead of taking that to insult others (like insulting LMgamer's IQ and calling Hibiscus a "chicken", and wishing failure on our site), you should at least listen to the criticism and try improving your logo designs. We are a logo database, not an old Nickelodeon website about animals. No, I'm not trying to be rude, nor bullying you, but honestly that is what your logo ideas remind me of. Nothing wrong with your designs, but it just doesn't fit in. What we need is a simple logo that can stand the test of time. And in design, a logo should be recognizable at first glance.
 * So please listen to the criticism and try to fix the cons, and stop accusing other users of racism when they are not. Thank you.  Logohub   (talk) 15:56, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I listened to what you said and I apologize for the denseness of the critisism. But, I can't ask to be unblocked because no matter where I go nobody listens to me. Thanks for being nice and I will stop if I could just be unblocked. I learned my lesson. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 16:02, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Look, all the post I made from yesterday where from stress and anger. I wasn't having a good day yesterday and the criticism was just adding on. It's a new day and I am not stressed anymore. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 16:08, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Please unblock me as I have learned my lesson. Or you could maybe limit my block? Just please, do something! DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 18:15, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * "Who are you and why do you keep trying to bring me down?" - DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic
 * After that? SHADOWNINJA (talk) 18:32, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you two leave this alone now? It's really not constructive at all to constantly be at each other's throats. LoganStuff (talk) 18:34, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not the one doing this. He is coming up to me, DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 18:57, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * After that? - SHADOWNINJA
 * What about it? DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 18:58, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * What is going on here? DarkMatterMan4500 (talk) 18:59, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * ShadowNinja keeps coming to my talk page, angry that I used him as an example. I am trying to end it here but he is still coming up to me. Also I was asking for my block to be removed and such as I learned my lesson and all. DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 19:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, again with this... SHADOWNINJA (talk) 19:17, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok how about this, how about you just leave and let me sort it out with the mods about my block so I don't have to face a month in jail :D DHX Cookie Jar Fanatic (talk) 19:23, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It was your decision to leave this wiki in the first place! How many times must I say this? SHADOWNINJA (talk) 19:26, 27 September 2022 (UTC)


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Can i be unblocked?

 * The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
 * Thank you for the unblock. I appreciate it. I am closing this so I don't have to edit it when I get unblocked. CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 5:09, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

please? I put the request above CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I don't like it in this purgatory CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 16:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * please respond soon so I can edit again :( CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 17:44, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, while I believe that a block should remain in place considering the above argument and the Stewards Noticeboard incident, following discussion on the Discord server, I have decided to shorten your block to two weeks from the original block date as long as you do not repeat the same behavior that led to your block. Before your block expires, I strongly implore you to review our Site Rules, as continuing to engage in uncivil behavior after your block may result in lengthier blocks being applied to your account. Thank you. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 17:44, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I heavily thank you Hibiscus. But the argument above wasn't my fault. As I have stated above, it was ShadowNinja who kept coming to me while I was trying to discuss my block with you and DarkMatterMan. CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 18:16, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * also i wanted help for my wiki so i wanted to post again CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * is there any further you could go? like 3 week or ? CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 19:39, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * can i get help with my wiki CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 12:43, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Bruh you don't even sorry Hibiscus for calling her a chicken. Thesquidgeeks (talk) 12:59, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * that wasn't directed at hisbiscus :/ CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 13:20, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * but sorry hisbiscus for calling you a chicken CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 13:46, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * so can i get some help with my wiki? CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 14:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * also did u do the 3 week thing? if not could you? CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 15:09, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know what is the 3-week thing though. Thesquidgeeks (talk) 15:13, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * oh yeah the block, and no i'm not the one behind it. Thesquidgeeks (talk) 15:16, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I accept your apology, but please don't repeatedly post the same requests multiple times, as it can fall under spamming. As for the block, the administrators on the agreed that reducing the block to two weeks was ideal, so I'll likely keep the block as is. The block itself is partially in place to give you time to improve your behavior before it expires and to make sure that you learned from what resulted in your block. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 15:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * ( CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 15:35, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * i am sad now :( have a good day CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 15:37, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * hey can people vote while being blocked? CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 12:28, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I found a new sock called NinaJoyfan323456353. they are jordan k ene CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 12:28, 11 October 2022 (UTC)


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Regarding your recent talk page edit
Hi, please do not remove other users' talk page messages without permission as you did on your own talk page. Thank you. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 14:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Can I remove them I don't like them and they clutter up my talk space CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 14:26, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Welcome back.
Hey. I'm glad you're finally unblocked. Welcome back. I'm thinking of possibly requesting becoming friends with you due to a couple of positive interactions in the past. Jecken (talk) 22:08, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thank you Jecken. I will spend the rest of my time on the wiki bringing all together. And also, you're a cool person too. CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 23:31, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Tandem Productions page archive
You know the Tandem Productions page is archived on the Wayback Machine, right? Jecken (talk) 14:53, 20 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Oh ok CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 15:06, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Regarding my conduct earlier
I'd like to apologize for instigating a minor conflict on the AVID:Requests for Comment proposal. I know I was overreacting in that situation that originally started as an uncivil taunt, and I got a little bit carried away as the argument intensified. So, please understand that I do not want to instigate any further and will do anything to make things right. Thank you for reading. ifyoudarethenpizzait aka Compooper (talk) 18:35, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


 * I accept your apology. When I said he was mean I meant by the wording, And when I was acting like a sheep that was so I wouldn't get banned CharlieFiddlesticks (talk) 18:46, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Do you own this non-Miraheze account?
I have a feeling you own this account on DaFont. The main reason why I suspect you own this account is because on the same day, your sandbox was changed and a forum post on DaFont was created by aforementioned account, both mentioning the same fake logo. As you can see under the forum post on DaFont, an account is asking if you are Charlie Fiddlesticks, as the account is actually owned by me. I never got a response on that DaFont forum post, so I'm curious if you own the account that made that forum post or not. Jecken (talk) 19:51, 21 November 2022 (UTC)


 * My DaFont account is called joeMama22. I was originally just planning to use it to find cool fonts, but then I tried to find the Little Airplane emblem font and then I asked for the font for Jones Good A*s BBQ and Foot Massage because the font looked cool. Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (lets talks) 20:27, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. Jecken (talk) 20:31, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * You're welcome Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (lets talks) 20:33, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Regarding your recent image uploads
Hello! I came across your recent image uploads, File:0777.jpg and File:0776.jpg, and found that it did not include the name (and date seen). I know I'm no admin, but per this passed RfC, it is made compulsory to include the name and date on files uploaded from now on.

Usually, I would have moved these files, but likewise (yet alas) I barely have any info about them. I suggest you gather some more evidence/info regarding them. Either way, please try keeping the file names consistent. Otherwise, I wish you a good day! Thanks in advance! Doctorine Dark (talk) 16:47, 14 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Ill fix it hold on. Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (• USER TALK! •) 16:52, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok it is fixed Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (• USER TALK! •) 16:55, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Strong warning regarding recent conduct in regards to sockpuppet accounts
Hello, CharlieFiddlesticks, I have been alerted to and have observed that you have been attempting to conceal sockpuppet accounts that were made by a previously blocked user, Jacknorrisbelike, to prevent his accounts from being blocked. This kind of behavior is not accepted on the wiki in any capacity, as users who are indefinitely blocked from editing are not permitted to register additional accounts on the wiki unless they successfully appeal their blocks per our site rules. Do not repeat this behavior again in the future, and please report any sockpuppet accounts you are aware of at User Reports. If you are caught assisting blocked users in evading blocks again, your account will be blocked from editing the wiki. Thank you. HibiscusCrown20 (talk) 18:35, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Why is everyone against me? I didn't go to him, he came to me. I tried explaining my side of the story but nobody listened and just criticized my side and wording. Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (• USER TALK! •) 18:54, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You should report a sock immediately on the User Reports page. Socks and ban evasion are not allowed on the site. Since you knew from the start that those socks are Jacknorrisbelike you could have reported them on the User Reports page. Like I said before, do not defend ban evaders. Ignore and report.  Logohub   (talk) 19:05, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok, I get that. But I still have the question of what rule did I break?
 * None of the rules state that "you should not defend people who start making sockpuppets". Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (• USER TALK! •) 19:09, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Defending ban evaders is basically allowing their antics on the wiki. It shouldn't be a rule because it's common sense to not allow problematic users to run amok on the wiki. As I said before, when you spot a sock, immediately report them.  Logohub   (talk) 19:18, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * You know who you are, and you know who you are defending. Solarstrike (talk) 19:21, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * yes I do know who I am Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (• USER TALK! •) 19:55, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know how long I can stay on this wiki for Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (• USER TALK! •) 17:48, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Regarding credits
Hi CharlieFiddlesticks, just wanted to remind you to add your name to the page credits if you write a logo description. Thank you  Logohub   (talk) 16:02, 23 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Well I didn't want to hog the credits for myself Charlie fiddlesticks signature.png (• USER TALK! •) 19:00, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Slowing down.
I am slowly starting to lose interest in this wiki. It has been a year since I first started on this wiki and now I am just not feeling it anymore. I might make a few edits here and there and may even reply to post and user reports, but I am kind of getting a little bored of it. There are a lot of things I didn't get to do on this wiki, like becoming an admin, but that can be for a later day. And I know a lot of users on this wiki don't like me, but hey, you can't make friends with everyone. So yea (• USER TALK! •) 14:08, 11 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Nevermind. This wiki is like McDonald's Sprite. I can't get enough of it DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 16:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

My new pages
DanteWilliams, can you please edit these draft pages which are called M&M's and Coca-Cola please? Samsungfeg (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Sure. What do you want me to edit? (• USER TALK! •) 17:48, 12 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Those pages for me please. Also, my name is Samsungfeg. Samsungfeg (talk) 17:51, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I know the pages, what do you want me to add to the pages? (• USER TALK! •) 17:53, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

About my account
Hi. I have a problem about my account. I don't know how to change my Miraheze account name. I'm trying to rename it to my Fandom/MyCast name (Sonicfan19198282) and I'm asking you because you recently renamed your account from CharlieFiddlesticks to DanteWilliams. Please, can you help me? Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 13:08, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Well, all you have to do is go to Special:GlobalRenameRequest and follow the steps there DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 13:43, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It takes a while to get done and when it happens you will need to log in again with your new username DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 13:44, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * So how long will it take? Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 14:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Probably a week or two DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 15:25, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

About RfCs
I have a couple questions about RfCs: Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 17:44, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * 1: How long does it take for an RfC to be closed as passed or fail?
 * 2: If an RfC passes, how long is it gonna take for it to happen?


 * 1: RFCs take at least 2 weeks to close
 * 2: Implementation time varies depending on what happens DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 18:05, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It was because the Anime Dubbers section hasn’t appeared yet. Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 20:45, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It's right here DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 20:48, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I meant on the main sidebar. Will it appear there? Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 21:33, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * idk DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 21:57, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, if my mascots in sections idea happens (judging by the amount of supports, it probably will), How long will it take approx. for the characters to appear on the sections? Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 17:29, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Not trying to be self-centered Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 17:29, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know. The mascots are drawn. They are art. Art takes time. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 17:42, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Also thx for accepting the request! Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 17:51, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * you're welcome DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 17:57, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Template Trouble
I'm sorry for asking a ton of questions, but I need help. I don't know how to make a template for the userboxes you put on your user page. If you wanna tell me how to make a template for the userboxes, tell me here: https://avid.miraheze.org/wiki/Forum:How_do_I_make_a_template%3F. Plz and Thx. Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 18:10, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Add Images
Hi, can you add some images to Coca-Cola and M&M's pages please? Samsunguno2 (talk) 12:47, 17 January 2023 (UTC)


 * I know you are Prodigy012. Sorry but I gotta tell the others DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 13:46, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

How long left?
When you told me how to rename myself, you said I have to wait. How long will I be Sonictailsknucklesshadow for? (I did the form right when you sent it.) Sonictailsknucklesshadow (talk) 17:33, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Idk. Probably a few weeks DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 17:38, 18 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Looks like I've got a new name!! Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 17:33, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Well good for you 👍 DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 16:36, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Goodbye.
Clearly I am unwanted. I did alot to help this wiki. You guys can have it your way. And according to my block, I am "starting drama" by just existing. Not worth it. I'll log out after this. It has been a whole year, and now it is gone. Goodbye. (• USER TALK! •) 01:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Make use of those years wisely. Solarstrike (talk) 01:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Just so its clear, you've brought this upon yourself by taking every possible chance to argue over even the most minor thing possible. I know I'm bad, but you're on a whole nother level. You're better than this, it's unfortunate you let you're time here go to waste. Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png (Lets chat!) 01:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * This all happened over a frog joke mind you DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:54, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Eh. Well, I'm considering moving me and my pages over to the dollar store version of CLG Wiki. I'll probably forget this place after 2 weeks or so. Even though I am blocked, maybe I will wiki dwell here. Who knows? I won't edit anymore. And also, I am not even mad about it. I got way worse on my tail rn. I am just trying to keep it together. If I am alive by 2027, maybe, JUST maybe, I might make a last edit for good ol time sake. Most users who get blocked here go to the chum bucket wiki anyhoo. And even if I don't move there, I will keep trying to run the dream logo wiki. Even though some say some things that I do are wrong, I am mostly punished like a sock-a-teer. This was also evident by my first ever block. Well, you guys have a good one. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 02:01, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * My only request left on this wiki is to be able to edit my User Page daily, maybe jot down what it's like being blocked or something, you guys know I wouldn't do anything bad to it. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 02:30, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok one last question for whoever blocked me. Are you sure you wanna block me til I'm 18? By 18, I would probably have forgotten this place or this place would probably been shut down or something and moved on to get a real job of sorts. It would kind of be pointless. If so, this would basically be an indefinite block but not at the same time.
 * This is my last message because I don't want someone getting upset and calling it spam. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 03:11, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Bye. Thx for everything. Hope you don't forget this place, all the interesting logos you saw, and me. Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 13:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you Sonictailsknucklesshadow. Oops I'm sorry I meant Sonicfan.
 * Also, if the admins don't lock it, I might keep coming back to my talk page just to chat. I'll tell you guys if I find some cool logo or something. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 14:40, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Well, I just reread the replies on my User Report. I still have a question about my block.
 * Exactly who was I harassing and how, and also what was I spamming? DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 15:18, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh no! They are considering removing Jeff from the mascot line up :(
 * If you remove Jeff from the mascot lineup then that will basically be another blow to the situation.
 * Here, I got a deal. If you keep Jeff, I will peacefully leave the wiki. You will see no more of me. You won't even have to remember me. You can remove all ties to me too, you can even replace my name in the credits and such. You can do anything to me. Just please keep him. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 15:38, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Who's considering removing Jeff tho? I just asked on the forums what are we gonna do with him. IAmThe789Guy (talk) 15:39, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh. Well just in case DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 15:48, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ngl I kinda want to see what the discord server had to say about this. It would be kinda funny to see their reactions. You could screenshot their reactions or something DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 15:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't have a discord acc, nor am I in the server. IAmThe789Guy (talk) 15:56, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * darn DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 16:09, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * why are people saying I am underage lol. I am 13. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 16:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It's because I said you're still in school, while trying to convince EternityMediaGroup to give you one more chance (It didn't work, don't unfriend me). Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 16:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You're fine I won't unfriend you DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 21:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * See you Never because I'm Leaving. Poociansignature.png (My Talk Page) 17:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Goodbye Poocian and thanks for everything. Btw, I found your channel and subbed DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 21:38, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Honestly, now that I see a bit of users sticking up for me, I would like to add a few things about Hibiscus's block reason.
 * First of all, who was I harassing and how? I never harassed anyone on this wiki.
 * Second of all, what did I spam? Spamming is going like lklklklk a bunch of times or like ctrl+c ctrl+v a bunch of times.
 * And third of all, the final reason, whatever I did to cause harm for this block, it was never intentional. That's all DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 21:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Maybe try to make an appeal. Probably won't work tho, considering Eternity said you've had chance after chance (in my words). Also Jeff is dead. Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 21:53, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm scared to appeal. I'd rather list reason for my block to be shortened (maybe to like 5 months or heck I'll take a year at this point). Also, even though I'm blocked, I don't really think Jeff is no longer a mascot because of it. I have a deal (see above). DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:01, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Welp, I checked the forum. They're already taking suggestions for a mascot to replace Jeff. So it's safe to assume he no longer exists. Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 22:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Darn. I can't believe the community! Why would you all drop an awesome mascot just because of a sprinkle of drama that happened within the course of 30 Minutes. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:28, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Jeff? Awesome?
 * Seriously man, just retire.... Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png (Lets chat!) 22:31, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Eternity I have never seen you like this. What happened? DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:33, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Mainly because 1) He's your creation, and 2) We never cared for Jeff as much because he didn't fit the wiki, to be real. IAmThe789Guy (talk) 22:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That's like if Nickelodeon were to drop SpongeBob because some Joe Shmoe from United Plankton Pictures made a reference to a noose in the show. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:32, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * what does that have to do with anything? IAmThe789Guy (talk) 22:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * THOSE ARE NOT EVEN COMPARABLE! Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png (Lets chat!) 22:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comparing a frog to suicide is pushing the boundry way too far Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png (Lets chat!) 22:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Calm down. Not that serious. Don't need to turn on the Caps lock. I wasn't comparing them, I was comparing removing Jeff because of a sprinkle of drama to a what if scenario DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:39, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * They said he had nothing to do with logos. Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 22:35, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ace and Vivi also have nothing to do with logos too (unless you are counting the AVID logo). And also, that's what makes Jeff unique. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * But here's the thing: Ace and Vivi were designed around logos. Jeff is just a plain frog. IAmThe789Guy (talk) 22:39, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Vivi was literally created based on the old CLG branding, ace is literally AVID personified. They have more to do with the site than F R O M G Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png (Lets chat!) 22:40, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok I am closing this it's getting a bit out of hand DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:45, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That "Fromg" was Dante's cyber-son, and you all killed him, just because he isn't a logo! Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 22:45, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Deal
Here is my deal; A lot of people like Jeff. That is a fact. Evident by a lot of people. I know he isn't really a logo related character. Who cares? He has a relation to the wiki. He was here since around September this year. The only two people I can see hating on this guy is Eternity and 789, nobody else (and that is not a callout to neither of them or anything of the sorts). And how many people liked Jeff since after Forum:Preparing for a new CLG Wiki? A lot. And another reason, why are you trying to remove him? He is just a mascot. He is just a character for a random logo website. A sprinkle of drama shouldn't be a huge thing just to take him away from me and those who also care for him. He is just a character who represents the wikis fun side, which we sure as heck don't got a lot of. He can't be so harmful to the point where you remove him and block me too (twice) because of it. So I give you a deal (which is really just 2 options). You can either decide to keep Jeff as a character, who represents the fun and good side of the wiki and has correlations of the wiki while also being a good inside joke for the wiki and is a favor of many, or, disregard this and close this, showing the other side of the wiki and also showing you don't care about this.

This deal is not meant to start drama, it's not meant to be mean or anything like that, Its not meant to cause harm in any way or sorts. (• USER TALK! •) 23:00, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Sounds fair. Sonicfan19198282 (talk) 23:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Update: Looks like I stand corrected. Some people are Abstained over Jeff DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 23:11, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * it wasn't a "sprinkle of drama". it was ongoing drama that lasted for months. NancerAVID (talk) 23:40, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Looks like people are really hating Jeff now. All this over a frog guy (who wasn't even been used at all yet). What a switch up. Tell you what, I will have him as a mascot for the dream logo's wiki shall we deprecate him. I can't believe this happens. Honestly, it is kind of sickening. This really goes to show this wiki's true form, to me at least. (• USER TALK! •) 23:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)


 * To tell the truth (I don't want to start drama and risk myself getting blocked), we only liked Jeff ironically. That's why we turned on him. IAmThe789Guy (talk) 23:39, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * You're really embarassing yourself here right now. PM pinter (talk) 23:42, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * how? by talking? DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 23:44, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. By talking absolute bollocks that results in nothing better. PM pinter (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * even if it result's in nothing better, I still should be able to talk DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 23:49, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * eh. well you can think i am embarrassing DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 23:51, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I just realized nothing I do on this wiki matters anymore. nice.
 * How did this block even happen? DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 00:07, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

A choice
Let's explain what I meant by "make use of those years wisely".

I left that question to you to ponder and think about what to do for the next five years, but only you can control your destiny and fate on this wiki. You have three main paths to take from the aftermath of all this:


 * You can choose to do nothing, never seeing the AVID wiki again even past the five years; moving onto other ventures that hopefully go smoothly and wonderfully for you.
 * You can choose to burn the five years down by lambasting against the wiki, destroying the goodwill you have left with the community (I don't hate you, honestly - you seem like you have potential and had genuine friends formed here...would be a shame to burn the potential down).
 * Or, you can choose to spend the five years maturing, pondering about what to improve on yourself and your interpersonal skills and coming home with a strong desire for improvement and redemption. This is the option I hope you come to realize is the best way to go - you're a young, promising mind that's still learning, and I believe you can pull through with this, realizing your mistakes and coming roaring correct in October 2027 - just imagine your redemption story in the future! You'd be a real role model that would easily be an inspiration to promising minds and editors everywhere that even the most contentious of people can improve in the end! It would an amazing tale to remember well beyond the lifespan of the wiki and server!

Only you can choose which path to take, and while I can strongly suggest the third path for you; it comes down to what actions you'll take in the future, both short-term and long-term. We'll be here for you in 2027, and I'll be cheering for you...if you choose wisely. I wish for the best with your five years, and I hope you make use of those years wisely, as I said before. Good luck. Solarstrike (talk) 00:13, 24 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Well I guess 3 but...what else do I have left for me? There is nothing left. Just boring stuff til I die. And, even if I come back to the wiki now and then, everyone will still remember what I did and not forgive me DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 00:19, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * And plus plus, if I am blocked, I can't make useful edits. And if I can't make useful edits (and still being banned from the Discord), everyone probably won't give me a fresh chance and still see me as a useless scumbag. That's also what happened to Matt DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 00:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I promise you; as long as there is a pattern of evolution, lessons learnt, and a solid effort to continue to improve by 2027, you'll be welcomed back with open arms. Time heals all wounds eventually, even ones as serious as this situation. And if there are people that don't believe in you changing - prove them wrong by putting in the effort. You've got lots of potential I see in you, and I'd love to see you realize that potential in a wonderful way! And by the way, Matt was booted for far darker reasons than yours - and you never stooped to his level in my book. You've got talent, now hone in on it - it may take you many places in the future. Solarstrike (talk) 00:28, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * But wait what if the wiki is gone by then or I forget about it. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 00:30, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It won't be. If we made 15 years with the amount of leadership changes and dynamic situations we've gone through, we will easily make 20 years. It is up to you to choose to remember or forget this place, and if you choose to forget; that is your decision. But if you choose to remember, good on you! And trust us, the culture regarding users has changed dramatically from the BoD era - we have opened up and become self-critical of our own sins of the past, and constantly strive to improve from those dark days. Perhaps you can learn from your old days too, and seek to improve once you've returned. The choice is always up to you. Solarstrike (talk) 00:35, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * But, what am I supposed to do without this wiki? There is no other wiki like this one. There is no other wiki that has good ways to edit AND also has users that are actually friendly DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 00:40, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * There are many great communities out there that you can experiment with to improve your skills and maturity. Experimentation takes practice, and not every experiment may be successful. But as long as you understand what has happened and work to improve from the mistakes if that happens, you know you'll be on the right track to improve - and if it takes many experiments, there's many lessons to be learned. But you'll never know if you don't take any. Seek out what else interests you, whether that be outside of logos, or communities inside or adjacent to them - that is my suggestion on where to begin. Keep trying, and you've have a full array of what to improve on, and when all of the cycles of learning are complete; you'll be in a far better place in 2027. Solarstrike (talk) 00:47, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't worry Dante, when you come back, I know you will become a better person. JrStudios Logo .png(Talk!) 00:44, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait, you said "you'll be in a better place in 2027". Wouldn't that mean I won't be here.
 * I wish i could reverse time to stop me from saving that edit to my user page that led to me being blocked DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 00:55, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * We cannot undo our prior sins that have occurred, but we can atone for those sins in big ways. If it means away from AVID, that's your decision that you made. If it's inside AVID, that's wonderful. But the point is, even if it means you never choose to return, I hope you walk away from this conversation with at least one positive impression and a golden idea that sets in motion not just your future here, but your future in the world as a whole. Wherever you go, you'll at least have these words to go by. The future is in your hands, Charlie - it's yours at the end of the day. All I'm offering is my perspective - you can choose to heed these words, or ignore them completely. It's all open-ended from here. I truly wish you the best, Charlie. Solarstrike (talk) 01:01, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait. I sinned? DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:03, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't wanna go to heck over a wiki :( DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:04, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * It is a metaphorical concept, not a literal one. Did you have any major thoughts about what I had just said above, though? Solarstrike (talk) 01:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * i am still deciding but i might go with 3 DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:17, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * A very wise choice, sir. I wish you the best of luck going down that path, and if it takes many ounces of failure to understand what has happened here; as long as you keep working on improving, you'll be coming back swinging in a huge way in 2027. Just remember the tips I have given you (put them down in a text file, write them down, a Google document, anything) - and you've got a road to redemption cleared for you. These are my final words to you - and one more time, make use of those years wisely. I wish you all the best in the world, Charlie. :) Solarstrike (talk) 01:21, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you. i will miss you all DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:26, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The wiki is not going to die before its reached the big 20. I don't know why you keep saying that we won't, Dante Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png (Lets chat!) 00:36, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * If I may, Charlie, you could use this block to reflect on why you were banned. Think about it: you constantly annoyed us with you repeatedly entering user reports you weren't a part of (such as "The first [X] sock of the year") and you were rather irresponsible; such as all the times you DEFENDED Jack Norris and his sockpuppets from getting banned because you're his friend. Maybe one day, you'll back on this and laugh, but right now, you oughta be thinking about your ban. IAmThe789Guy (talk) 01:12, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Stay out of this. I want to give him the best shot of what he chooses next. Solarstrike (talk) 01:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Solarstrike, what about my son? What about Jeff? I really wanted him to have a redemption arc here, but now that won't happen because of what I did. He had a good future, and now it's gone. some bad parenting. its all my fault DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:21, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * i would rather not look back at it DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:18, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, I would like to mention this. maybe the reason of this whole thing is because of my own off platform problems. You see, I have been helping a team recently that has been harassed by a jerk that does bad things and also broke a ton of laws. I do this on discord though and it is really stressful, it even prevents me from making my daily vids. DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:29, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Wait, when I did the "First sock of the year", wasn't that just once or twice? DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:39, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * How about we just stop all of this and actually take some time away from the wiki as planned. Eternity Media Group Wordmark.png (Lets chat!) 01:41, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not doing it today. I will later. I will leave when I am ready. I promise I won't do any shenanigans DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 01:44, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * dude, please. just take a break. NancerAVID (talk) 17:10, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ok jeez im going im going DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:45, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
 * aand...it looks like you all removed jeff. now im sad :( DW Signature.gif(• USER TALK! •) 22:47, 24 January 2023 (UTC)